I’ve updated this post a bit to make it look better. But the images come from the time when I did this experiment, in 2013, and they aren’t very good. I’ll try and repeat everything and take better pictures.
Chocolate Fudge Cake, made with or without eggs
Been having another little play in the kitchen today. Made two chocolate fudge cakes, one made with oil not butter, and eggs, my usual version. The other made with oil and no eggs, which coincidentally is vegan if this is of interest to you. I make a very good chocolate fudge if I’m allowed to blow my own trumpet. I wanted to try one with no eggs as I am experimenting making cakes with no eggs because often I can’t include eggs in a weekly plan as there aren’t enough funds, and even if I do include eggs, I can’t afford to use 4 of them to make a cake.
This is oil, sugar and 4 eggs whisked up. The usual fluffy mixture, with lots of volume.
This is the oil and sugar and no eggs mixture at the same stage. Wasn’t at all sure what this would be like. It had a little volume, but nowhere near as much as the eggy version. I didn’t know if it would homogenise together, but it did.
The oil and eggs cake after baking. This is a soft, tender cake.
The no eggs baked cakes. You can probably see that the texture is very different from the eggy version. It didn’t feel soft and it wasn’t holding together, it was positively crumbly. I wasn’t at all sure if it was going to work at all at this stage.
The no eggs cakes turned out of the tins. You can see the texture better here.
The fudge icing in the saucepan
The iced usual version
And the no eggs version
Vegan chocolate fudge cake versus chocolate fudge cake with eggs
A direct comparison of the two versions. The eggy version is on the right, the non-egg version on the left. I am very pleased with the height of the eggless version and the tenderness of the crumb in the completed cake.
In summary, although more difficult to handle, the eggless version is well worth making and a very tasty cake. The advantage of the fudge icing is that it covers up all the flaws. So all in all, a resounding success. Although now I’ve costed it, there is no way I can include a £2.28 tin of cocoa in a £14 weekly shop :0, oh well. Maybe one of the many other versions would be doable.
There is surprisingly little difference in cost between the egg and non-egg version, this surprised me. It is down to the cost of the cocoa powder. I had to increase the amount quite a bit in the non-egg version. It just goes to show – I am constantly surprised when pricing things, some are more expensive than I thought they would be, others much less. We just need to work it out so we know.
And so, the recipes, the first version is in the recipe card, I want to improve the vegan version and will put it in a recipe card when I have
Vegan Chocolate Fudge Cake
as an egg weighs about 80g, I needed to replace that volume, 4*80g=320g, so I have increased the remaining ingredients accordingly
300ml veg oil, Tesco £1.25/litre, 37p
300g sugar, 88p/kg, 26p
300g self raising flour, or plain with 2tsp baking powder, 45p value brand/1.5kg, 9p
70g cocoa £2.25/250g, 63p
a scant tblsp vinegar, any kind except malt or a strong balsamic ( I used distilled white vinegar that was in the cleaning cupboard!)
6tbslp water
Whisk the oil and sugar together.
Use a stand mixer if you have one, or a big bowl and a big wooden spoon. Stir in the water – this was needed as the eggs provided a lot of moisture which was now missing
Sieve the flour and cocoa together and fold them gently into the oil and sugar mixture.
Meanwhile, line 2 x 20cm sandwich tins and heat the oven to 180C fan/200C non-fan/Gas Mark 6.
Pour half the mix into each tin and level off the top. Put them into the oven immediately (baking powder starts to work as soon as it gets wet). I needed to increase the bake for this version from 20 minutes to 27 minutes in my fan oven, so 32 minutes or so in a non-fan.
Remove from the oven, and the top should look done, but won’t be as springy as a sponge with egg in it. Leave in the tin to cool for a few minutes to firm up a bit, then turn onto a cooling rack. This was quite tricky as the cake didn’t want to leave the tin, even tho the bottom was lined. Do the best you can. I left the lining on the bottom of the second cake as I knew I wouldn’t be able to transfer it to the top of the half iced cake without it
While that is happening, make the fudge icing as in the recipe card
You now need to get the bottom half of the cake onto a flat plate. Again, this was quite tricky and I had to patch it back up when bits fell off. When the cake is barely warm, and the fudge icing is warm, but not so warm that it is still very runny, spread about half the mix onto one cake. Now use the second half with the lining still attached to help you put the second cake on top, remove the lining and spread with the rest of the icing. Bits still fell off the second cake, but at least I could move it. I just splatted them into the icing to glue them in place. If the icing has cooled down so much it has started to harden up, warm it over a gentle flame until it softens.
Cut either cake into 10 pieces
Vanilla Sponge Cake
I don’t think I would make a plain vanilla sponge cake with oil instead of butter, so if you want that version, I would use butter/spread, replace the cocoa with extra flour and add a tsp vanilla extract
Chocolate Fudge Sauce
The chocolate fudge icing is fabulous as a sauce, just thin it down with a little water, go steady, a tsp at a time, it thins very quickly. Keep it in a jam jar and use it on everything from pancakes to ice cream. Go easy though, it’s all sugar!
Coffee and Walnut Fudge Cake
This is my husbands absolute favourite – add 3tsp instant coffee granules dissolved in half tsp hot water whilst creaming the eggs and sugar. Leave out the cocoa in the icing, make it the same way with some coffee added, taste it for strength. Put 50g walnuts on the top of the cake, chopped or whole, up to you, and 25g between the two cakes
Lemon Fudge Cake
Add the zest and juice of a lemon to the mix whilst creaming. Sandwich with lemon fudge icing or lemon curd and cream
Orange Fudge Cake
As above using an orange. Orange curd if you can get it is delicious, can be made fairly easily
Black Forest Fudge Cake
Use a chocolate sponge and fill with whipped cream and cherries
Fruit and Cream Sponge Cake
Sandwich any variation flavour sponge with whipped cream and a good jam/curd and/or any fruit you like – strawberries, raspberries, apricots, peaches, fresh or tinned, banana, mango, one of those cheap tins of broken mandarins
eg – chocolate sponge, maybe with some orange zest in, sandwiched with cream and mandarins
lemon sponge sandwiched with raspberries and cream
vanilla sponge sandwiched with strawberries and cream – quintessentially English
Baked Sponge
Or, using any of the variations, using half of the cake mix, as a baked sponge. I would use one of my oval pyrex dishes that I use so much, you could put jam, curd, treacle, apples, plums, rhubarb etc etc in the bottom. Bake in a medium oven for about half an hour, or microwave it for 6 minutes. Serve with custard, cream or ice cream
fudge cakes, one made with oil not butter, and eggs, my usual version.
The other made with oil and no eggs, which coincidentally is vegan if
this is of interest to you. I make a very good choc fudge if I’m allowed
to blow my own trumpet. I wanted to try one with no eggs as I am
experimenting making cakes with no eggs because often I can’t include
eggs in a weekly plan as there aren’t enough funds, and even if I do
include eggs, I can’t afford to use 4 of them to make a cake.
Ingredients
Egg version
- 4 large eggs separated, Asda Chefs medium eggs, £3.10/30, 41p
- 200 ml veg oil Tesco £1.25/litre, 25p
- 200 g sugar 88p/kg, 17p
- 200 g self-raising flour or plain with 2tsp baking powder, 45p value brand/1.5kg, 6p
- 70 g cocoa £2.25/250g, 63p
No egg version
- 300 ml veg oil Tesco £1.25/litre, 37p
- 300 g sugar 88p/kg, 26p
- 300 g self-raising flour or plain with 2tsp baking powder, 45p value brand/1.5kg, 9p
- 70 g cocoa £2.25/250g, 63p
- tblsp vinegar any kind except malt or a strong balsamic ( I used distilled white vinegar that was in the cleaning cupboard!)
- 6 tblsp water
Fudge icing
- 50 g butter £1.20/250g, 24p
- 3 tblsp water
- 250 g icing sugar Asda, 1kg/£1.88, 47p
- 2 tblsp cocoa powder Asda £2.28/250g, 32p this must be cocoa, not drinking chocolate which has lots of sugar and
milk powder in it and won’t give enough chocolate flavour to your cake.
Instructions
Egg verison
- Whisk the oil and sugar together. Add the egg yolks, beating a little
between each one. Use a stand mixer if you have one, or a big bowl and a
big wooden spoon. - Whisk the egg white slightly with a fork, not too much, and adding about
half an eggs worth at a time, beat them into the mix. Beat a little
between each addition. Keep mixing until you have a light and fluffy
mixture. Don’t keep going too long as if you mix it too long, something
happens to the mixture and it begins to lose volume and go runnier. - Sieve the flour and cocoa together and fold them gently into the eggy mixture.
- Meanwhile, line 2 x 20cm sandwich tins and heat the oven to 180C fan/200C non-fan/Gas Mark 6.
- Pour half the mix into each tin and level off the top. Put them into the
oven immediately (baking powder starts to work as soon as it gets wet)
and bake for 20 minutes in a fan oven, 25 minutes in a non-fan. - Remove from the oven, the top should be springy. Leave in the tin to
cool for a few minutes to firm up a bit, then turn onto a cooling rack - While that is happening, make the fudge icing £1.03
- Melt 50g butter (£1.20/250g, 24p) or spread with 3 tbslp water in a
saucepan. Sieve 250g icing sugar (Asda, 1kg/£1.88, 47p) and 2tbslps
(35g) cocoa powder (Asda £2.28/250g, 32p)- this must be cocoa, not
drinking chocolate which has lots of sugar and milk powder in it and
won’t give enough chocolate flavour to your cake. And both the icing
sugar and the cocoa need sieving as lumps are completely impossible to
get out once they are mixed with the melted butter – believe me, I’ve
tried. Give the fudge icing a bit of a beating to make it glossy. Leave
to cool - When the cake is barely warm, and the fudge icing is warm, but not so
warm that it is still very runny, spread about half the mix onto one
cake. Put the second cake on top and spread with the rest of the icing.
If the icing has cooled down so much it has started to harden up, warm
it over a gentle flame until it softens. - Wait impatiently until the cake and icing have firmed up, then have a
big wodge, maybe with some ice cream, or maybe still warm or warmed in
the microwave for a few seconds. Warning,
this has squillions of calories and can’t be fitted into any slimming
diet unless you have the slenderest of slices and what fun is that!!!!
Eggless version
- Whisk the oil and sugar together.
- Use a stand mixer if you have one, or a big bowl and a big wooden spoon.
Stir in the water – this was needed as the eggs provided a lot of
moisture which was now missing - Sieve the flour and cocoa together and fold them gently into the oil and sugar mixture.
- Meanwhile, line 2 x 20cm sandwich tins and heat the oven to 180C fan/200C non-fan/Gas Mark 6.
- Pour half the mix into each tin and level off the top. Put them into the
oven immediately (baking powder starts to work as soon as it gets wet).
I needed to increase the bake for this version from 20 minutes to 27
minutes in my fan oven, so 32 minutes or so in a non-fan. - Remove from the oven, and the top should look done, but won’t be
as springy as a sponge with egg in it. Leave in the tin to cool for a
few minutes to firm up a bit, then turn onto a cooling rack. This was
quite tricky as the cake didn’t want to leave the tin, even tho the
bottom was lined. Do the best you can. I left the lining on the bottom
of the second cake as I knew I wouldn’t be able to transfer it to the
top of the half iced cake without - While that is happening, make the fudge icing as above
- You now need to get the bottom half of the cake onto a flat plate.Again,
this was quite tricky and I had to patch it back up when bits fell off.
When the cake is barely warm, and the fudge icing is warm, but not so
warm that it is still very runny, spread about half the mix onto one
cake. Now use the second half with the lining still attached to help you
put the second cake on top, remove the lining and spread with the rest
of the icing. Bits still fell off the second cake, but at least I could
move it. I just splatted them into the icing to glue them in place. If
the icing has cooled down so much it has started to harden up, warm it
over a gentle flame until it softens.
Equipment Needed
Notes
Black Forest – use a chocolate sponge and fill with whipped cream and cherries
Fruit and Cream – sandwich any variation flavour sponge with whipped cream and a good jam/curd and/or any fruit you like – strawberries, raspberries, apricots, peaches, fresh or tinned, banana, mango, one of those cheap tins of broken mandarins
eg – chocolate sponge, maybe with some orange zest in, sandwiched with cream and mandarins
lemon sponge sandwiched with raspberries and cream
vanilla sponge sandwiched with strawberries and cream – quintessentially English or, using any of the variations, using half of the cake mix, as a baked sponge. I would use one of my oval pyrex dishes that I use so much, you could put jam, curd, treacle, apples, plums, rhubarb etc etc in the bottom. Bake in a medium oven for about half an hour, or microwave it for 6 minutes. Serve with custard, cream or ice cream Got a great recipe? How about submitting it to appear on Thrifty Lesley!
Nutrition
https://bakealish.com/eggless-chocolate-sponge-cake/
Just one of millions of light cake recipes without eggs online….so many things you can use as subs for the binding and raising agent elements of eggs …I tend to use an egg replacer just as lazy! It costs about £3 but it’s equalient of about 80 eggs or something daft like that! Works very well in the cakes I make
Thanks for super website,got so many ideas from it
They are, no calories at all!
These sound so delicious. Thaanks for sharing this recipe.
Simon
Glenn, I was surprised at how little difference no eggs made to the price, I was expecting the no egg version to be quite a bit cheaper. That is a good price tho, so I’ll bear that in mind for the next plan. I would still use the recipe when doing weekly plans tho, as I often can’t spare the eggs for a ‘mere’ cake
Glad you like the blog 🙂
Eggs at aldi are £1 for 6 large free range if that helps the cake budget,its a nice blog thanks.
I know exactly what you mean!
I love chocolate fudge cake too much!! I shall step away from this one!
I’m so glad you are finding it useful. Building the next weekly plan ATM
I am really finding this blog very useful. I like the way the recipe is just the starting point for a whole range of ideas and variations – that’s real life cookery! Thanks very much for this great resource.
Some good ideas there, thank you. The mashed apple idea rings vague bells
Hello , I’m a fairly new reader and really admire and appreciate what you are doing here. It is an approach I have to learn myself all those years ago…would have like some help like this back then.
Often for specialty cakes on a budget I would, and often still do, make just one layer and split it. I fill the center and just dust the top with icing sugar or fill with a thin layer of jam and ice just the top. I call them my Viennese torts! Often I fill the centers with the same puree I used if I made the eggless version below.
In place of eggs I sometimes add their weight in mashed ripe banana or thick apple or pear puree. Peaches or other stone fruit have not worked well for me…not sure if it the lack of pectin or their particular acids.
Thanks again